Comment on Elon Musk wants the U.S. to “Liberate the people Britain from their tyrannical government”

mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I genuinely can’t believe what is happening

  Then you should pay more attention to history…

  And I don’t mean that as an insult, all this shit is reruns of shit we’ve already been thru. WW2 had a large push by wealthy American businessmen to not just abstain from the war, but they advocated for joining the Axis back then.

  Capitalism and fascism go hand in hand, the ultra wealthy will always want fascism because fascist leaders love bomb them to get their wealth and power behind the movement.

  We all need to understand this shit so we can understand what worked last time and why it didn’t work permanently

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  • llii@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only this time its: Whoops! All Axis!

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    • Daze@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Don’t we have any Axisn’t left? :(

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And my Axis

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  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fascism cannot exist without capitalism. Capital is what supports and strengthens fascism - the idea that business is more important than the people. This sounds like how the world has always been but it wasn’t until the 60s, at least in the US, when the business leaders wanted to stop unions, make more money, stop the possibilities of environmentalists from hurting profits, etc. The pushback from the people in the 60s spawned the Civil Rights and threatened to derail the business first approach America had gotten used to from after the Depression. The war years gave too much money and power to too few people and things like the Business Plot simmered under the surface of our grandparents’ generation. Two generations of propaganda that made social and community based governing sound villainous has brought us to a full on fascist revolution slow burning through wealthy democracies.

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There’s a lot of details in there that are wrong, but I’ll touch on the part that’s UK relevant since this is a UK sub:

      The pushback from the people in the 60s spawned the Civil Rights and threatened to derail the business first approach America had gotten used to from after the Depression. The war years gave too much money and power to too few peopl

      The big driver of the civil rights movement in America was the treatment of Black soldiers in WW2, the English and especially the French didn’t give a fuck what color an American soldier was, they just cared they were killing Nazis.

      For a Black man from Southern America in the 1940s, the tiniest but of basic human decency was unknown from a white person. But they quickly got used to the idea that all men were born equal, regardless of the color of their skin.

      So when they came back, they refused to go back to being treated worse for the color of their skin.

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      • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This might be the best thing I’ve read from you yet, cheers

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