The fact that there’s debate about the efficancy of certain medicine doesn’t change the fact that we atleast have a relatively good idea about what doesn’t work. People like Steve Jobs would probably have a thing or two to say about that aswell.
HikuNoir@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well colour me shocked. That YT would do the bidding of big pharma… Never.
Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Reva@startrek.website 1 year ago
“Big pharma” has better things to do than produce purposely harmful medicine. Fortunately, poisoning your customers is a big danger to profitability. If at all, a “traditional medicine” approach that was not a scam would be immediately adopted, marketed and commodified by the pharma industry, not suppressed and fought.
dx1@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Big pharma” companies do have a potential interest in covering up the harms of medicines in their patent rosters. If it doesn’t straight up kill their customers, it’s less money they have to spend on R&D for less harmful treatments.
Not to imply random snake oil assholes selling ivermectin etc. don’t have similar, worse interests. But no one in the space whatsoever is just immune from standing to gain from doing something bad without serious oversight from all angles.
skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisinin
there are probably more, starting with aspirin (salicin), modern opioids (opium) and modern anticholinergics (atropine). there’s also plenty of stuff in traditional medicine that maybe does nothing beneficial or even kinda works but it’s way too toxic for modern regulatory agencies, like all heavy metals and aconitine
Neuron@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Taking these medicines in the forms they are found in nature is a horrible idea. Most of the plants they come from are poisonous because the therapeutic index of most of the drugs here are low, meaning the line between medicine and poison is very fine. Purifying the ingredient and allowing tight control of the dosage is the reason any of these are able to be used safely. Please don’t go around eating bits of foxglove or belladonna.
As you’ve seen, modern medicine is not shy about taking ingredients found in nature when they actually have a useful purpose in medicine, and enabling them to be actually used safely instead of taking some random unknown dosage of a potentially deadly drug and hoping for the best.
Except for fixing vitamin and mineral deficiencies, supplements are ineffective at best and dangerous at worst. They’re in desperate need of better regulation in the United States. They scam tons of people and get away with ridiculous claims like fighting dementia based on no evidence that would be totally illegal for any actual pharmaceutical company to claim, all while selling bottles of stuff with “proprietary formulas” or claiming to have plants that aren’t even in there when independent researchers look at them. All totally legal by the way, no requirement for ingredients listed on a supplement to reflect reality. Stay away if you value your health or your money. Not saying pharmaceutical companies are always shining beacons of beneficence here, obviously I have many problems with them as well, but they at least have some sort of regulated evidence base for the most part.
Starayo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re right, we should let these scammers prey on vulnerable people when they’re at their most hopeless. They don’t deserve their money! They won’t have any use for it!
HikuNoir@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fallacy much?