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• essteeyou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  People can be worried about more than one thing at a time.

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• Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What this conversation is about has as much to do with child pornography as hentai with loli characters.

  Creating sexually explicit images of minors is child pornography.

  You just can’t argue without unsubstantiated accusations, can you?

  You literally confirmed my claim in your first sentence, and your last.

  When real living people are being murdered and abused in droves, you are still worried more about glorified automated Photoshop and accusing its users of being the same as actual rapists.

  Production of child pornography is production of child pornography. It does not need to involve rape. Producing child pornography is a separate crime.

  Its users are pedophiles because they are producing child pornography. You are defending them.

  These are the facts.

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Producing child pornography is a separate crime.

    Victimless crimes are not crimes. Thus producing any pornography is a crime only when it involves violating someone’s rights.

    Its users are pedophiles because they are producing child pornography. You are defending them.

    Ah, so you are dumb enough to think it’s bad to defend pedophiles who have not committed a crime against a real person?

    Damn right, I am defending pedophiles who are being persecuted for being born with that deviation alone. I am also defending pedophiles who satisfy that via any means not harming real people. I will do both till my last breath.

    If you argument is that they are disgusting and you don’t want them in society, then so are you.

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    • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Victimless crimes are not crimes. Thus producing any pornography is a crime only when it involves violating someone’s rights.

      You mean like when someone takes a photo of a minor, removes their clothing to make a sexually explicit image, and uses that image to harass, bully, and extort?

      Ah, so you are dumb enough to think it’s bad to defend pedophiles who have not committed a crime against a real person?

      Taking a picture of a minor, making that image sexually explicit, and using it to harass, bully, and extort that minor is not a “crime against a real person”?

      Damn right, I am defending pedophiles who are being persecuted for being born with that deviation alone. I am also defending pedophiles who satisfy that via any means not harming real people. I will do both till my last breath.

      You should stop “defending” their “right” to child pornography and start advocating for them to get real help with the very serious mental disorder that causes them to want sexual activity with a minor instead.

      If you argument is that they are disgusting and you don’t want them in society, then so are you.

      My argument is that they should not be given child pornography. Your argument is that they should.

      The disgusting people I don’t want in society are people who use child pornography, and those who defend their use of child pornography.

      Kindly see yourself out and take the rest with you.

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Taking a picture of a minor, making that image sexually explicit, and using it to harass, bully, and extort that minor is not a “crime against a real person”?

        Doesn’t matter, that’s not what we are talking about here. You don’t have to use a face of a real child.

        Oh, you wanted to pretend it is? Cheating doesn’t work with me.

        Your argument is that they should.

        No, my argument is what I myself already said.

        The disgusting people I don’t want in society are people who use child pornography, and those who defend their use of child pornography.

        It’s really not your concern what other people create for themselves. Nobody owes you any shame for being born with a flaw.

        It’s really a good thing that people with this particular deviation can get materials satisfying them without harming real people. And if one can generate those materials - then that’s a noble endeavor. For every decent person, that is.

        Kindly see yourself out and take the rest with you.

        No, you are the one unwanted in civilized society.

        BTW, for any normal person any pedophile that doesn’t hurt children is better than you.

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