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zero_gravitas@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

“People who believe system is failing have less faith in system”

I know it’s the headline writer, who I think isn’t usually the author of the article (I don’t know how The Conversation does it, though), and much less still is it reflective of worth of the study, but these kinds of headlines still annoy me. Maybe they’re written to annoy people, I don’t know.

The headline isn’t even accurate. The question asked in the survey isn’t about whether respondents think inequality is high, but whether they think income distribution is fair (the exact wording is: “How fair do you think income distribution is in Australia?”).

Department of Home Affairs Strengthening Democracy Taskforce

This is a slightly terrifying phrase. I still associate Home Affairs so strongly with Dutton - as the mega-portfolio that was created to placate him - that it’s hard not to read ‘Strengthening Democracy Taskforce’ in the same way as American war-mongering rhetoric of ‘SPREADING FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY’.

This impression is not helped by this bit of double-speak later in the article 😂:

The Department of Home Affairs’ 2024 Strengthening Democracy report describes Australia’s democratic resilience as “strong, but vulnerable”.

This suggests Australia’s satisfaction with democracy is at risk. It may erode further if voters think the major parties aren’t sufficiently responsive to the economic pressures they are under.

Not to defend the state of our ‘democracy’, but I feel compelled to point out that thanks to preferential voting we can vote for parties other than the major parties. Unfortunately many of the minor parties are also in favour of policies that would increase inequality, but the Greens consistently campaign on reducing inequality. I suppose a lot of people who might be roughly characterised as ‘right-wing populists’ and against status-quo neoliberalism would find the Greens unpalatable, though. Do we need a party that’s like the Greens but with One Nation’s aesthetics or something?

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Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

I suppose a lot of people who might be roughly characterised as ‘right-wing populists’ and against status-quo neoliberalism would find the Greens unpalatable, though.

The unpalatable bit for many, particularly young men, is the social progressivism of these parties. I see it time and time again: guys who would be easy Greens voters based on their economic policies don’t take them seriously because their perception is that left-wing politics is primarily focused on issues of gender and sexuality. They don’t consider these issues comparatively relevant and get attacked quite viciously online for this position which feeds into this broader alienation problem they are going through due to the shift away from traditional gender roles that would have given their lives meaning. Feeling alienated by the left, these guys drift right towards groups that validate their feelings and welcome them.

I don’t necessarily think this is a completely fair perception of The Greens, but the reality is that we live in an age where young people’s views are heavily influenced by their social media algorithms. And if those algorithms are constantly feeding them culture war shit , particularly from the US, then it is understandable that they feel this way. Currently, I don’t see an organised attempt by left to combat this problem, nor even an admission that we have agency over it. The focus still just seems to be on blaming the right for manipulating these young men.

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NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I would also add the subtly that this question:

On the whole, are you very satisfied, fairly satisfied, not very satisfied, or not at all satisfied with the way democracy works in Australia?

Is not “do you want more or less democracy?”. We only nominally have a democracy, we can’t for example fire a government (non violently) that broke all it’s promises. We can’t force certain bills to be presented or not, we can’t directly vote on any issue, our workplaces are almost exclusively dictatorial. Even within the system we have defects like the popular vote to seat count being completely whack because of single member seats in the lower house (very unusual among democracies).

Saying you are dissatisfied could mean you’re an authoritarian dickwad, but so could saying you’re satisfied. People who want more democracy, lots of citizen involvement, and more accurate representation of the people are not against democracy but would also say they’re very unsatisfied. I mean society is getting measureably worse while we careen into a global crisis of apocalyptic proportions, who the fuck things this is working?

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