They already moved on to different tactics like restricting the ability to connect solar to the grid or simply burying all applications in red tape for years.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
The propagandized will continue parroting their fossil fuel talking points and will continue to vote for the politicians that collect fossil fuel money.
Ooops@feddit.org 4 days ago Serinus@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Idk, it’s working pretty great for me.
My experience: lemmy.world/post/32326227
- Ooops@feddit.org 4 days ago
But you are not scalable.
The companies that in my country have already applied for grid connections of more solar and battery capacity than would be needed in the next few years yet waiting and waiting and at some point just giving up would be.
Oh, and now law changes will also kill all future plans as no one will build any more solar with their own money (or get loans from banks) after the decision if they can actually feed in their produced electricity is shifted to the control of grid providers all-well connected or subsidiaries with fossil-fuel focused energy companies.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 days ago
they are going pretty hard in maintaining gas and oil production
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Why do you say it like it’s an eternal inevitability? Propagandists spend so much time and money on propaganda because it has to be maintained at a certain pressure to effectively change someone’s behavior. The solution to the propaganda problem, then, is to combat propaganda, not wring our hands in despair. We’ve been busting up propaganda rings since the dawn of the written word, it can be done. Just needs people to do it.
Your mistake is believing that they are spending much money. It’s actually a small fraction of the money they makew from burning the planet, miniscule if compared to the amounts accumulated over decades, and i’s also the easiest option. They could also just buy politicians who are incredible cheap but still more expensive than the ongoing media desinformation campaign.
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
I guess it depends on what you call much. influence campaigns are clearly profitable, at least some of the time, but just because the profits are greater doesn’t mean the costs aren’t still significant.
And, I think the more active people are in countering propaganda, the more expensive it becomes to achieve the same effect. I think just believing the effects of propaganda are inevitable (and acting on that belief) has the effect of making deception that much more economical and effective for those who wish to deceive for their own selfish ends.
Oh, so you never actually tried to talk to those lost propaganda victims conditioned to reject facts (because otherwise they wouldn’t fall obvious bullshit anyway) and can’t be convinced of reality anymore?