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Comment on Norwegian government to set 15-year age limit for using social media

We don’t have to accept corporations selling ads that target young people and using algorithms to take advantage of them.

And Norwegian parents are doing what many are doing; caring for their kids to the best of their abilities. That oil money has provided good social services and these teens do have access to healthcare, including mental, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t teenagers still. They necessarily require some independence. That’s growing up, so you can’t just parent around every problem. Hence restricting some things, like cigarettes and alcohol for example.

I don’t see this much differently. It is a hazardous drug that warrants some consideration. Enforcement is fraught but that doesn’t mean we should just sit on our hands and accept it as is.

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fosho@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
personally I think it’s the phone that’s more the problem. the persistent access seems like it contributes more to habit forming than the nebulous definition of social media. and that’s much easier to define and possible enforce.

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drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
prohibition simply doesn’t work. Especialy with social constructs. Try telling teens that they shouldn’t listen to a specific music genre lol

There are million other better ways to handle and this law just seems like a bunch of populist drivel:

Therefore, the next step will be to push forward an age verification solution specifically for social media.

So, now because some parents suck at parenting I should provide my ID to Instagram? How incredibly dumb is that?

As a prent myself I’m so tired of shitty parents ruining it for everyone. Just talk with your kids, it’s really not that hard.

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- theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Interesting. Not going to debate much further with you, but I’m always a bit envious when I run into other parents who claim they have 100% control over their kids. I don’t. My child is grown now, but I absolutely did not. They were their own person, that no matter how much I talked to them had their own life and struggles.
  
  And prohibition does work in some cases. See, cigarettes. Smoking has been in the fall for a long time especially among the young.
  
  But I’m glad your kid will never have any problems ever and if they do that you admit it could have been solved by you talking to them.
  
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  - EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I was under the impression that kids don’t smoke anymore because it is not trendy like it was in my parents’ times. But they do drink alcohol. And especially they do vape.
    
    Interesting how in parents’ times, you did not have to be 18 to buy alcohol… But juvenile alcoholism is a much bigger problem now. As if there is some bigger underlying reason…
    
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  - drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m really confused by this perspective and your comparsion to cigarettes is completely inadequette — you can’t compare substances to social constructs.
    
    If parents can’t influence their kids how is goverment powered prohibition supposed to do that?
    
    List one social construct that is successfully prohibited by a governing body and actually provides societal value. The only thing comes to mind is porn and take a look how fucking twisted countries where porn is supressed are. This is some north korea level of stupidity.
    
    This law is unprecedented and usually I’d say it should be approached with great care but clearly it’s just populist virtue signaling because it’s simply stupid and is backed by zero scientific or intelectual basis.
    
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    theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I agree that it is unprecedented and should be handled thoughtfully. Nevertheless a corporate website is not a social construct. There is no talk of banning socialization. Maybe you thought they meant social networks in the traditional sense (social group connections) but they are referring to websites. So cigarettes is a perfectly suitable analogy, which is why I can understand your dismissal.
    
    So let me just clarify. Norwegian parents are bad, even though kids here are doing pretty well when compared globally. Regulating how young people interact with the world never works and is bad. So, underage drinking should be allowed, smoking, driving at 8, no age of consent? And parents can just talk to their kids to fix all the problems that happen, including psychological manipulation for financial gain? And anybody that has issues or is taken advantage of just has bad parents? Those who think society has a role to play are just virtue signaling?
    
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  - 0x0@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    And prohibition does work in some cases. See, cigarettes. Smoking has been in the fall for a long time especially among the young.
    
    Prohibition only feeds black markets.
    
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    TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Except it doesn’t, like with their smoking example.
    
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