Syldon@feddit.uk 1 year ago
The biggest factor in why an Ambulance doesn’t arrive quickly is down to Tory management. The are missing the ball by a country mile when it comes to stop oil. No one (including Starmer) agrees with idiots blocking roadways. Near all agree that something more needs to be done with climate change.
My personal opinion and wish is that climate activists would wake up and realise the protests are achieving absolutely nothing. They have zero effect on the swing seat areas. It is the swing seat areas that decides who runs our country. The last poll I saw put climate change at number 10 in the swing seats. Political parties are not even considering this.
Proof of that is with the Tories jumping on the anti climate bandwagon all of a sudden because of the ULEZ in Uxbridge. This was nothing more than a local issue that will have next to no effect in the outcome of a GE. The Tories are pissing up the wrong tree: they are not even in the right forest. What makes this point of the parties ignoring climate activists is that incredibly Labour also jumped on that bandwagon. Starmer actually tried to make Khan a scapegoat for ULEZ and asked him to think of better policies.
The best place Stop Oil could spent their money would be with any party that will push for PR voting. PR voting would stop the opinions of those few thousand people being at the forefront of our politics. We would get a more representative push for what the country actually wants.
I’d have more respect for just stop oil if they went after the private jets of billionaires rather than blocking random working class people.
putting my tinfoil hat on, they’re so bad at winning public sympathy it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re a false flag funded by oil companies.
Dale Vince is one of the major donors to Just stop Oil. He was in the panel with a recent Question time event. It is Dale Vince who made the donation to the Labour party, which the daily mail tried to push as a donation from the Just Stop Oil group. He is an altruistic person who likes to make his money works for what he sees are good causes. I very much doubt he would donate without looking into it.
Just to be clear though, it was not the Just Stop Oil group who donated to the Labour party. Full fact covered this one and put the record straight.
@RobotToaster @Syldon
Do they not though?
My impression was that runways have been blocked.
tintory@lemm.ee 1 year ago
TBF: Most climate activists were mislead on what implements change for a reason
Syldon@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Can you expand on that? I am not understanding what you mean.
tintory@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They think silly protests and being a pain in people is how we gotten our earlier gains, despite it not working.
I think its because of shows and stuff saying that these methods do work, when in reality is gaming the system (which they only do if it means blocking new housing for some strange reason)
tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 year ago
The BIG recent social gains in the UK (and likely Western Europe) happened after World War 2. The ruling classes were terrified of growing Soviet support and “allowed” concessions like the NHS and a large welfare state. The last 50 years have seen the slow reversal of those big gains.
To me it looks like most social and political change in the UK has come about as a consequence of fear of revolutions abroad (French and Russian primarily).
Day-to-day social change comes about as coordinated direct action though. Look at the successes of the LBTQ+ movement over the last 50 years and the profound progressive impact its had. You could probably say the same about animal wellfare.
I think environmental change will happen as a mix of direct action and some catastrophes that directly affect UK and Western countries. What IS a major factor preventing positive change is the billionaire-owned media that undeniably influences how ordinary people think and behave.
Syldon@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Yes, I agree. We have a very biased and politically controlled media. Things which they see as intrusive on what they wish to pursue are hidden and unreported. They only ever publish items that push there own agenda forward.
Take the Stop oil protests, the only protests that anyone hears about are the ones that put the protests in a bad light. We got to hear that expensive art was being vandalised, we got to hear that traffic was being stopped and drivers were very irate. We never got any coverage of the many other protests that are happening all the time. Stop Oil noticed the lack of coverage and decided to up their game for sensationalism. This just played into hands of Murdoch’s media. Murdoch has managed to make them look like terrorists. He even got the Tories to change the law so that we all got affected because of the acts of Stop Oil. This again does Stop Oil no favours. Protests without the right sort of coverage is a total waste of time and effort.