Comment on Proposal to create a collective to own the topic-based Lemmy instances
Blaze@feddit.org 3 months agothere could be easier moderation splitting the task between users and the comms.
On the other hand, for some communities moderation of the communities and the members are specific and should not be generalized.
Beehaw is an example that comes to mind, lemmy.ml as well
IceHouse@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Even though the community is contained the cloud resources should still be split in two between identity and operations to be in alignment with all the industry best practices and potential for scalability. Remember the unix philosophy is do one thing well.
Beehaw should operate their own Beehaw fediverse IDP (Identity provider) for the users to sign in with, that would manage their tos agreements, privacy policies and user based security. Separately they should operate their Lemmy server which hosts pictures and links organized by communities. They could just use a single IDP for their instance and have the same experience as now only better with better architecture.
Source: I am a cloud services architect.
Blaze@feddit.org 3 months ago
I’m familiar with IAM concepts, and indeed having a separate IdP and content instances would be a better architecture.
However the reality is that the platforms (Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed) are being developed by very small teams (Piefed is a 2 or 3 people team, and Lemmy might be around 5).
Lemmy is focusing on features delivery (join-lemmy.org/…/2024-09-11_-_New_NLnet_funding_f…), which could help the platform grow more than a new IAM architecture.
There will probably be a point in time where performance will require a rework, but at the moment, it does not seem to bee a prioirity
IceHouse@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
But nothing needs to be done to meet this OPs desires for community only instances that are well federated with other instances (IE at least one user is subscribed to each community on each instance). This way those admins just manage those communities and Beehaw and Lemmy.ml can run their combined servers.
The users and the subscribed to communities cause nearly all the load on the servers too, it is a way to keep costs down.
Blaze@feddit.org 3 months ago
Who would manage all of those community instances?
The current setup works well with the limited number of admins and mods we have overall. I’m regularly looking for mods on communities I mod, there isn’t so many of them (e.g. !showsandmovies@lemm.ee )
Also, with the federation currently being broken, mods would need to have an account on each community to be able to get the reports: github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744
Regarding costs, the cost of these community instances suggested by OP is around 6500€ per year, so 540€ per month (lemmy.world/comment/12595221)
It currently costs 80€ per month to host lemmy.ml, which is the 4th most active instance with 2300 monthly active users