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Comment on Starlink kit found amid wreckage of Russian drone

DelightfullyDivisive@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Are you saying that geolocation of a starlink unit is difficult from the starlink satellite network? That seems unlikely to me.

Starlink has no reason outside sanctions to give a fuck where their payments are coming from

Do you see a moral dimension to this? Keeping technology out of the hands of an aggressor state is an excellent reason. I think that many people feel that because corporate entities behave like criminal organizations (indifferent to anything other than maximizing their own profits) that this is somehow OK. It isn’t, and normalizing isn’t acceptable either.

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KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Are you saying that geolocation of a starlink unit is difficult from the starlink satellite network?

In 99% of cases? No. In the case of a state actor intentionally wanting to obsfucate the location? Absolutely.

Do you see a moral dimension to this?

You’re either missing the point or ignoring it. If you bothered to read around that sentence, you’d realize that in context it has nothing to do with morals, and everything to do with other companies with a financial incentive failing to do it. If a company loses out on 75+% of their profit when I pay for YouTube out of India, and fail to stop me despite active efforts, how do you expect a company to manage it against a state actor.

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- Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yputube ignore it because it is cheaper to ignore than to pay people to fight against it. If enough people do it don’t worry they will fund and find methods to block user using VPN to pay abonnement
  
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  - KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    They do fight it. They cracked down on it a couple months back. Didn’t stop all users, and it wouldn’t stop just asking a friend in the respective country to buy it for you and pay them on the side.
    
    Which is my point. You’re coming at this like it’s Joe Everybody is being discussed, when we are talking about an entire country which is actively succeeding at influencing other countries.
    
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    Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    True enough. I wasn’t precise enough if they really wanted to crack down on it and reduce it to nearly zero they would have way. But the cost excède the benefit. For starlink that the same. They surely can know where the data are sent and disable suspected starlink asking for them to contact call center for exemple. Which a drone can’t do. This wouldn’t be trivial or cheap but that doable. We built systems far more complex than that
    
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