Comment on Proposal to create a collective to own the topic-based Lemmy instances
Grimy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It seems kind of slimy.
If you don’t want the communities, stop squatting them. Having no users seems like just a way to keep costs down to you can hold onto more urls and is bad for the general ecosystem anyways.
rglullis@communick.news 1 week ago
It’s amazing, there is always someone that will look at other people are doing and find the worst possible take.
I decided to reach out to other admins precisely because I got tired of hearing “you are running all these instances by yourself, who guarantees that you are not going to do something nasty with them or disappear if you lose interest?”, even though I’m running all these instances by myself, keeping them up to date, posting regularly on a good number of them, trying to get more people involved for over an year and (most importantly) outliving a bunch of “community-based instances” .
Seriously, this crab mentality is the worst. What a disgrace.
Grimy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Just coordinate the release of the urls and the transfer of the communties to someone elses hardware.
I’m skeptical about this since you wanted to bring blockchain subscription to lemmy a week ago and now you are squatting on 12 urls while trying to get volunteers to create value out of them. Nothing leads me to assume you are being altruistic.
It seems like you are waiting for the next influx to potentially monetize and trying to hold the most potential instances without putting any work or money into it. It’s just my impression.
I also think instances without users are a terrible idea.
rglullis@communick.news 1 week ago
This is exactly what I am offering. I want to transfer these instances to a consortium to own this collectively.
Just yesterday I renewed 10 of these domains. That cost me ~400€. I renewed nba.space and nfl.community last month, each cost ~650€. Running all these instances is costing me ~200€/month.
I’m not even looking to dump these costs on the potential new co-owners, this is why I said that I don’t mind keep running them.
First, we’d have to argue the implication. You are implying that any attempt at building anything that is financially sustainable is immoral, something that I said many times is completely misguided, and a point of view that is starting now to be shared by other prominent figures in the Fediverse.
Second, I am offering the instances to be co-owned precisely to assuage those concerns. By having other admins co-owning the instances, I’d hope that less people would be pushing those accusations against me.
Blaze@feddit.org 1 week ago
Thank you for providing the numbers, these domains are quite pricey if you have to pay 1700 € per year on domains alone.
Grimy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
So are you willing to give up ownership of the url and have the instance be transfered to someone else’s hardware?
Maybe I misunderstood where you are going with this.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 week ago
Well you definitely are breeding a welcoming culture here.
rglullis@communick.news 1 week ago
Please, spare me from the cheap rhetoric.
I’ve been for over an year offering alternatives, attempting to bring actionable proposals to the table, putting resources on the line (go take a look at the matrix room and you may find me telling people that I registered selfhosted.forum and I wanted to give it for free to the /r/selfhosted mods) and every time there is any type of push for concrete effort, I am met with apathy at best and suspicion at worst.
Everyone keeps crying about Zuckerberg/Threads/Venture Capitalists/Spez, but when push comes to shove no one wants to mobilize and put up a proper fight.
It’s tiring and frustrating.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 week ago
…k