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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Eh, there are some competitors:

Nebula - costs $5/month; can get a discount if you find a creator’s discount code (I used NotJustBikes, can check out LegalEagle, HalfAsinteresting, or any of the others if you want; I got 50% off a year sub)
Odyssee - pretty much the OG alternative to YT - I follow a few there
Rumble - much better funded, but caters to conservatives and far-right, but there are some more moderate videos there (I like Glenn Greenwald, except for anything related to Russia); I think it’s funny that it has been blocked by some countries for allowing pro-Russian content, while also being blocked by Russia (this year) for not removing content

I sub to some channels from each (as well as Twitch and YT) though Grayjay, which seems to work pretty well. I’d say about 50% of my video watch time is on YouTube, 20-25% on Odyssee, 20-25% on Nebula, and a little on Rumble.

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dsilverz@thelemmy.club ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Rumble - […] I think it’s funny that it has been blocked by some countries

Rumble is blocked here in Brazil, not because Brazil blocked it (although there was once a strife between Rumble and Brazilian Supreme Court due to a half dozen far-right influencers) , but because Rumble themselves blocked us.

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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah, my understanding is that they blocked Brazil due to some stuff they disagreed with. They’re certainly a mixed bag.
  
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TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I know about Nebula, but you have to admit, the barrier to entrance is a lot higher for most people because of the subscription fee, so it’s not necessarily a direct comparison. Some of my favourite content creators are on there.

Didn’t know about Odysee. As far as I can see, that platform uses crypto for payments, which could also act as a deterrent to some people.

As for Rumble: Personally, I wouldn’t touch anything related to JD Vance with a ten foot pole (he’s a pretty big investor). And one of their biggest channels seems to be by Andrew Tate (ew). To be fair, I couldn’t tell you for sure that Youtube doesn’t take money from any of them in some form. But they seem to be more of an equal opportunity offender lol.

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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  As far as I can see, that platform uses crypto for payments, which could also act as a deterrent to some people.
  
  I’m confused, what I’m hearing is:
  
  YouTube - don’t want because of ads and ownership by Google
  
  Nebula - don’t want because of required subscription
  
  Odysee - don’t want because of optional crypto payments
  
  Rumble - undesirables use/invest in the platform?
  
  PeerTube (not mentioned) - not enough content
  
  That seems unreasonable to me. All three of those alternatives have no ads and have content that you would probably enjoy. You don’t need to use crypto to use Odysee. You don’t need to watch Andrew Tate or support JD Vance to use Rumble. You do need to pay for Nebula, but you can pay for a single month if you just want to try it out.
  
  But at the end of the day, these alternatives need to get paid to survive. None of them are perfect, which is a big part of why I use Grayjay, which lets me sub to creators from all of them without having to see those services’ front pages. I pay for Nebula and I donate to creators I like at Odysee outside the built-in crypto system. I don’t like JD Vance, but I also don’t particularly care if we invests in Rumble, that really doesn’t affect me in any way. My goal is to reduce my YT use, and I’m not going to get there by continually moving the goalposts, so I decided to just pull the trigger and try them all out, and they’re fine.
  
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  - TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Oh, please don’t misunderstand: I personally don’t really care about leaving Youtube myself, but it’s good to have alternatives/competition. And as I said, there’s no direct competition to Youtube, which does everything they do. Low barrier to entry, a huge amount of money behind it, a self contained eco system with decent tools, barely any political affiliation (afaik), etc.
    
    So, I was more talking about why the majority of people won’t leave for other platforms.
    
    Pretty much everything Youtube does is driven by making the platform profitable. Which, ironically, makes me trust them more with certain things. Not a huge fan of their parent company tho.
    
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