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That’s a wrong speech to deliver to a cute girl asking how to make things better.

You’ve started with philosophy and economics and olden days.

If we want to explain today’s tech and possible directions of fixing it to “normal” people, we need to start with what they need to do that they do with smartphones.

That’s what businesses do too - they take something hard and suboptimal, make the road shorter and take their toll. Sometimes stealing part of what you are carrying on that road, or replacing it with their unwanted shit, or just stuffing their unwanted shit into your pockets.

So what we should think about is - what to replace their finger-poking box with, so that it’d be better fit for how they use it.

I’ve written my luddite idea in another comment. Split it into a few dedicated devices, much simpler in their essence. Since smartphones are used today mostly not as universal machines, and this difference can be optimized.

That’s only IMHO.

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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
You’ve reiterated pretty much what I said, but directly contradicted some of the most obvious points.

Not sure what a “cute girl” has to do with anything, I gave a pragmatic explanation. Do you treat cute girls like they can’t handle realistic information?

Your idea is to reduce functionality of popular devices. That’s not going to work. Like I said, if you want to play in these businesses’ little proprietary gardens you’re going to have to play by their rules. If you want to be a Luddite, great, but for the vast majority of people such limited devices will never be adopted and any business producing them will either be niche expensive or fail.

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- Balthazar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Just keep in mind that installing an app via the respective app stores (just install, not custom settings) is often the limit of what people can, and are willing to do. People just simply don’t have the time, willpower and/or knowledge to get a controlled LAN working. It’s similar to how you don’t expect everyone being able to fly a helicopter, or build a car from scratch.
  
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  - RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I didn’t assume we were speaking of the general public in c/technology, maybe that was a mistake. Most of what I said can be done without too much effort, especially browser extensions. The openHAB and various other tools are only going to apply to those who need them and probably have experience enough to try to tackle them. The only major one that I think people should take advantage of but is beyond most folks ability is Pi-hole. It’s not hard at all, but if you don’t know where to look or what the instructions mean it’ll be impossible for them.
    
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    Balthazar@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I missed that part xD Just with the rant thought of the root of this problem, and that is the general populace and how they use it xD
    
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- rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  but for the vast majority of people such limited devices will never be adopted and any business producing them will either be niche expensive or fail.
  
  I don’t think that’s true.
  
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