Comment on The Irony of 'You Wouldn't Download a Car' Making a Comeback in AI Debates

• desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  don’t humans normally use adblockers? Or the library?

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  • MutilationWave@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The vast majority do not. We’re in a pretty tech savvy bubble here on Lemmy.

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    • VoterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Point is that accessing a website with an adblocker has never been considered a copyright violation.

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      • knF@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thanks to everyone that has replied, all fair points. When you use (read, view, listen to…) copyrighted material you’re subject to the licensing rules, no matter if it’s free (as in beer) or not.

        This means that quoting more than what’s considered fair use is a violation of the license, for instance. In practice a human would not be able to quote exactly a 1000 words document just on the first read but “AI” can, thus infringing one of the licensing clauses.

        Some licensing on copyrighted material is also explicitly forbidding to use the full content by automated systems (once they were web crawlers for search engines)

        Basically all these possibilities or actual licensing infringements would require a negotiation between the involved parties.

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  • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The library is legally allowed to hand out the books. However they are not allowed to replicate them and you are not allowed to borrow them with the goal to scan and copy it.

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  • Marcbmann@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    While I am generally in the “copyright doesn’t matter when it comes to AI” camp, I also work in advertising. Most people do not use ad blockers.

    This is an interesting point that I haven’t previously considered.

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• Marcbmann@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is interesting. It seems a fair resolution would be to pay the content owner what they would have made in ad revenue.

  As long as the AI is not reproducing original works to the extent that it violates fair use, I don’t think copyright laws really apply. But there’s definitely lost revenue.

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• fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It depends on the purpose of the model I suppose

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