Comment on The Irony of 'You Wouldn't Download a Car' Making a Comeback in AI Debates
knF@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This process is akin to how humans learn by reading widely and absorbing styles and techniques, rather than memorizing and reproducing exact passages.
Many people quote this part saying that this is not the case and this is the main reason why the argument is not valid.
Let’s take a step back and not put in discussion how current “AI” learns vs how human learn.
The key point for me here is that humans DO PAY (or at least are expected to…) to use and learn from copyrighted material. So if we’re equating “AI” method of learning with humans’, both should be subject to the the same rules and regulations. Meaning that “AI” should pay for using copyrighted material.
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Do we expect people to pay to learn from copyrighted but freely accessible works?
hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
In general — yes. Most of the time they do so by subjecting their eyeballs to ads. Do you think it’s a good idea to flood AI models with ads as well?
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
don’t humans normally use adblockers? Or the library?
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The vast majority do not. We’re in a pretty tech savvy bubble here on Lemmy.
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The library is legally allowed to hand out the books. However they are not allowed to replicate them and you are not allowed to borrow them with the goal to scan and copy it.
Marcbmann@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
While I am generally in the “copyright doesn’t matter when it comes to AI” camp, I also work in advertising. Most people do not use ad blockers.
This is an interesting point that I haven’t previously considered.
Marcbmann@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is interesting. It seems a fair resolution would be to pay the content owner what they would have made in ad revenue.
As long as the AI is not reproducing original works to the extent that it violates fair use, I don’t think copyright laws really apply. But there’s definitely lost revenue.
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It depends on the purpose of the model I suppose