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The answer is obviously as everyone has pointed out already is enshittification.

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification. (Cory Doctorow)

Profit = enshittification. It’s guaranteed as long as profit is a motive.

An interesting concept is the idea of a distributed social web. It was the concept me, and probably a LOT of other redditors, were looking at last year, but it seems no such thing really exists. The idea that everyone’s home computer (or mobile device nowadays) could act as the client and the server. Perhaps using a firefox addon of some sort.

Do any software devs (ok that’s like 90% of lemmy, lol) know if any existing projects are trying to do this? It does not seem like an unfeasible thing, and it wouldn’t have to grow overnight, it could possibly just be a feature in an existing addon that allows communication directly between users. No centralized servers of any sort. Distributed communication without central control. Is this possible?

The existing social media companies own the world (literally), and they can maintain this control because they can buy out competitors. You can’t buy out 5 billion people though, so if people had the tools available to host their own web; and it was as easy as installing a firefox browser addon, a true democracy could exist like the world has never seen.

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WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
sorry, but I think what you are looking for is platforms like Lemmy. it is not centralized, it is distributed. not peer to peer, sure, but

since a lot of devices are not being online at the same time, mobile phones but even desktop PCs always go offline for some period of time, the direct communication wouldn’t really work with a lot of other users

you would need to store much more dataon each of your devices, unless you’re the kind who doesn’t care about mindlessly deleting past conversations
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asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

distributed social web

…ActivityPub?

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Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I do know of a project that does what you are looking for, decentralized (100%), FOSS, easy to set up, encrypted…

I built a very basic chat program on top of it quite easily, a “FB clone” is not far away IMO.

So what’s the project? It’s my Tenfingers protocol & implementation (tenfingers.org) and it’s just waiting for adoption!

I’m in the process of making the documentation and installation guide, but you can check it out right now.

I’d love showcasing it somewhere, getting feedback, help out with problems etc.

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- laverabe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  sounds interesting, is the source code on somewhere like codeberg or GitHub?
  
  How does it work?
  
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You can download the python code, or frozen executables for Linux and Windows on tenfingers.org
    
    Or the whole project, which I admit is kind of messy, on codeberg: codeberg.org/Valmond/Tenfingers
    
    I posted a more detailed description just below in this theead, please do say if you don’t find it or if you have any kind of questions!
    
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    laverabe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Very cool. 100% over my technical knowledge level but I’ll take a look at the code and give it a whirl when I get a chance.
    
    I think it would be awesome if it worked. Power to the people! ;)
    
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